clairdelalune wrote:whitebamboo wrote:But Evgeni didn't make an average of 1-2 mistakes per SP and 2-3 mistakes per LP....And even though he had plenty of haters even then, I don't recall any of his wins were controversial as some of Chan's were.
However, it is true that clean skates are a lot rarer with other skaters, too, this season. But even nowadays, I do think that any other skater who makes as many mistakes as Chan does would be seen as a "headcase".
Evgeni skated mostly under 6.0, when a fall on a quad or a combo use to kill a skater's chances to win. Under COP he could have won easily with a bounch of mistakes.
Some of his scores (aka 2006 Olympics) are still controversial.
I was talking about placement rather than scores. In any case Evgeni did not win with a bunch of mistakes even under the COP system. Other than Evgeni, I also don't see any other skater winning under the COP system with as many mistakes as Chan makes, with such a high level of frequency.
I see people say how he has more difficult programs than others, which is true, and it's good that he's trying to do them. But so far, he hasn't generally proven the ability to actually handle his programs cleanly, so frankly I think his level of difficulty is, in some sense, hypothetical.
Chan is a fine skaters and he has lots of strengths compared to other skaters competing currently, but I don't think he is comparable with Evgeni, nor do I think his position in men's skating now is comparable to Evgeni's between 2002 and 2006.